Feb 8

Written by: Tom Daniels
2/8/2009 10:25 PM 

When we last checked in, Cherokee had her seams all caulked and puttied.  Black putty below the waterline, white above.  



She looks a little different these days.



Woah!  She's been longboarded and primed!  Longboarding, in case you don't already know, is the perfect activity for a cold day in the shop.  It consists of sanding the hull using long, flexible boards with sandpaper attached to them.  It's not particularly hard if you're doing it for five or ten minutes... however doing a whole boat takes some getting used to and it works up a great sweat when you're chilly.

The point of longboarding is to create a smooth, fair hull shape.  If you were to sand the hull using, say, a 4" x 4" square electric palm sander, the hull would get nice and smooth, but the sander would ride up and down every little hill & valley in the hull.  You'd get a smooth surface, but not a fair surface.  The longboard flexes to follow the shape of the hull to a degree, but it selectively hits the high spots and rides above the low spots.  The end result is a hull with no dips and ridges, leaving only the gentle, easy sweep as envisioned by the designer.  Such a shape not only looks good to the eye, but makes a surface that water can easily slip around.  



Each iteration of sanding, painting and puttying moves us one step closer to the final goal of a curving, glass-smooth hull.

Up on deck, Robin and Karl have been working on the little step (or "rabbet") that the covering boards will set down into when they're attached to the deck beams.  



The covering boards are the outermost boards on the deck.  They form a transition between the canvas covering of the deck and the wood of the hull.  They also cover up and protect the end grain of the frames as well as the top edge of the sheer strake.  They are often finished bright to add a warm accent to the painted hull and deck.

You can see that the deck beams have all been bolted down to the sheer clamp, and the bolts have been recessed enough so that the rabbet doesn't hit them.  You can also see a little hole just inboard of each of these bolts.  Those are where the covering board will fasten to the deck beams.  There will also be blocking set on top of the sheer clamp and in between each deck beam for additional covering board support.  



The rabbet continues on into the solid wood at both the front and back ends of the boat.



And a little closer look at that...



And here are the actual covering boards!



You're looking at them from the forward end.  Lotta curve, eh?  Here's a close up of the forward end.



Since these are so long, we've had to make them up from multiple boards, using a scarf joint to connect them.  



This joint is one that we tend to be very very fussy about.  After all, it's one of those places on the boat where you can really see the shipwright's ability to make a nice, tight joint.  



Up on deck, the two cockpits have been framed out.  Here you're looking forward from just behind the boat steerer's cockpit.



In the last entry you saw the curved carlins being made that went along the sides of the forward cockpit.  The blue arrow points to that part, now installed.



The red arrow is pointing at a lighter strip of wood next to the carlin.  This is being used to pattern out the coamings that will eventually go up against the carlin.  

Here's a little close up of that carlin, showing the dovetail and half-dovetail joints used to lock it into the deck beams.



When you think about it, a boat is a big web of support members tied together with decking and planking.  Given that it needs to hold its shape, despite the  tremendous forces thrown at it by wind and water, you need to make sure that your web is very stiff and very strong.  At the same time, you need to make some holes in this web for the cockpit so that people can actually get in and out of the boat.  So, how do you keep the boat stiff when you've just cut out a whole bunch of deck beams?  

In some ways, we deal with this problem the same way that house builders deal with doors and window openings in a framed wall.  We put in extra large beams on either side of the openings, and we add extra bracing to stiffen things up near the openings.  Here the blue arrow is pointing to one such brace, called a knee.  Ok, it's technically a "lodging knee" because it's oriented horizontally.



A knee in a boat is any sort of structural member that stiffens up two joined parts by making a diagonal connection between them.  We see this all the time in timber framed homes,



on porches



or around the house



So, even though we've got this huge hole in our deck, the thicker deck beams and the bracing helps to keep everything solid. 

The coaming for the rear cockpit has been patterned out and is just about ready for fitting now.



This is silver bali that's been steamed and bent around a form.  The little cuts at the ends are there to fit it around the cockpit frame and decking.  Oh yes, and it's upside down in this photo...



Next up, we'll install the covering boards and get started with the decking.

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15 comment(s) so far...

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Tom,

2 questions for you. On the covering board scarfs, one end was nibbed and the other not. Why was that? Also, could you talk a little about how the rabbbet was carried into the transom knees? I'm curious about how to remove the wood and keep the remaining surface smooth and flat.

Thanks.

By Duncan Hannah on   9/26/2011 7:48 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Good questions! I wasn't there for the scarf decision, but here's how I think it came about (I'll check in with David to confirm)... The purpose of the nib is to avoid having the scarf run out to a feather edge that can't be mechanically fastened. It's nice to have the glue hold it, but if the joint is vulnerable to being damaged in any way, I want that location to be very firmly supported. As you can see, we've got a fastener right there in the nib. You may not be able to tell from the photos, but the nib is on the outboard edge of the covering board. This is the location where it could get bumped & banged the most. So, why not inboard as well? First, the inboard edge of the covering board is covered with the canvas decking, and it's very close to the toe rail, so it's pretty well protected from getting banged. Another reason that may enter into the equation is whether or not the scarf was set up so that an inboard nib would land on a deck beam. Without that landing, there's no good place to put a fastener from the nib, so you lose the benefit of the thicker nib end.The rabbet was done with a router on a sled that ran along 2 battens fastened to the sheer and deck beams. The batten on the deck beam acted as a fence to guide the router as well as establishing a height for the router over the deck beams. The batten that sits on the sheer is set up to be thick enough for the router bit to just reach the top of the sheer plank. You can carry this system over the transom knees and the breast hook to get those nice flats that you see. I wrote about this in another blog when we were restoring the 6-metre, Madcap, and there's lots of photos and descriptions of the process here daviddanielsdesigns.com/boatblog/index.php/2008/03/. Keep the questions coming!

By Tom Daniels on   10/14/2011 7:23 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Tom,

Why is it that softwoods are usually used for the sheer clamp? For instance, why not use bali or wana, these would probably make stronger connection, besides it would be the same wood as used for the planking.

mac

By mac on   2/10/2009 4:19 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Hi Mac,
Oddly enough, the qualities we look for in a sheer clamp are the same qualities that we look for in a gymnast... light, strong, flexible.

After that, the analogy just stops dead in its tracks.

So, getting back to the sheer clamp. Designers, and particularly racing boat designers, look for every possible way to reduce weight high in the boat and concentrate it low in the boat. Herreshoff went so far as to taper his frames as they went up the sides of the hull, arguing that the frames didn't have as much stress on them as they went higher, and thus didn't need all that extra weight. I don't know off the top of my head how much weight one saves by shaving off a few sixteenths of an inch along the length of a frame, but it was clearly enough to be done repeatedly by many builders. Sitka spruce has excellent strength to weight properties, making it a first choice for a light, sturdy part.

There are other reasons for choosing a wood like doug fir or sitka spruce as well. You can get these woods in relatively long, knot-free boards. The perfect sheer clamp has dead straight grain and is a single, continuous board. This maximizes both strength and fairness as it curves along the sheer. So, the second factor to consider is the long, even grain in a sheer clamp. The silverbali tends to have wavy grain and there are often knots to contend with. Knots are right out. Their interruption of the grain causes a localized weakness in the board, and that's the last thing you want. Wana is also a fairly heavy wood, so we tend to use it down low in the boat along the keel.

Next, you want a sheer clamp that has just the right amount of flexibility to manage the long sweep of the boat. Too flexible and you lose some of the shape-holding power of the clamp. Too stiff and it breaks or distorts the hull shape. Once again, the straight-grained firs and spruces are great for this.

Lastly, and most importantly to this particular project, we're using the woods as called out by Olin in the original scantlings, or woods that have been approved by folks on the 6-meter classics committee to match the weight and strength of the original materials as closely as possible.

Phew. Maybe I should have just stuck with the gymnast answer and let you wonder about that, eh?


By Tom Daniels on   2/10/2009 4:46 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Tom,

I'm glad you didn't... I thought the reason might be the weight, it makes sence to use spruce, good strength to weight ratio..

mac

By mac on   2/14/2009 11:06 AM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Tom, just want to say well done. Thanks for sharing this, especially the pics, I like it very much, this is very helpful to my research.

By Landon on   2/19/2010 6:30 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

You're welcome. It really is all about the pictures, the words just string them together!

By Tom Daniels on   2/19/2010 6:31 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Tom:

Did you steam the covering boards to develop all that curvature? Did you build a fixture to define the bend? How did you deal with springback?

By Dennis Dunn on   9/26/2011 7:36 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

In this case I believe that the covering board was spiled and cut rather than steamed. It's a tricky thing to work out the springback but Ed McClave has a little program that does a good job of it. It's called Bevel Gauge and it includes just about every calculation you could ever need for boat building. He wrote it to work on Windows 98 but it may work on later versions of Windows as well. I want him to port it to an iPhone app, but he's not interested.

By Featured Software on   9/26/2011 7:47 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Tom:

Why did you not use a flat scarf for the covering board. Since you've used epoxy other places to make longer stock, why not here? Looks?

Also the link referring to Madcap is broken.

By Dennis Dunn on   10/14/2011 7:23 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

I don't know of any examples of people using a flat scarf for the covering board, but there may be folks out there doing it. Here's the problems as I see them.
- A flat scarf looks worse: it's just a straight line.
- You want to support the ends of your scarf with mechanical fastenings (i.e., screws), and you don't want bare metal screw heads showing on your nice covering board. You can't get a bung into the thin top edge of your scarf, so the joint will remain unsupported.
- You would have to set up your scarf so that the screws at the ends of your scarf landed on deck beams. That could get overly complex.
- I'd treat almost any glue joint in a boat as if it's going to fail eventually, so you always want to back it up with mechanical fasteners. The wide, flat joint would be subject to more stress on the glue as the wood moved with humidity than the smaller, thin joint, and thus would be more likely to fail.
- When the joint above fails, it's much easier to fix than if a wide, flat joint failed.

That's probably enough reasons, but there may be more...

By Tom Daniels on   10/14/2011 7:56 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Tom:

I understand your arguments, but aren't you faced with most of these same problems when you scarf planking? I don't want to be argumentative - just trying to understand. Thanks.

By Dennis Dunn on   10/15/2011 2:33 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

When scarfing planking, we'll put a butt block behind the planking to fasten into (along with the frame), and fill the shallow hole above the screw with putty, and then paint over it all. This addresses both the strength and appearance issues. In general, though, we won't scarf planks together this way in a carvel boat. Usually we'll just do a butt joint. In a double planked boat, we may do a scarf joint in part because the whole plank is backed up by the layer below and the adhesive between the layers, in addition to the above blocks and fasteners. Naturally, there are exceptions for every rule. For instance, it's not unusual to scarf a sheer plank. No one does the kind of hook scarf done on the covering board in planking, most probably because the outward-bending forces are not as well supported in this type of joint as they are in a traditional 10 or 12 to one scarf. They would be certain to leak when subjected to any kind of outward or inward bowing stresses.

By Tom Daniels on   10/15/2011 2:43 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

Tom:
One more question about scarfing ...
It's fairly easy to make dead-fit scarf joints with feather edges because you can use a long plane to make nice flat faying surfaces. But how do you make a dead-fit nibbed scarf joint? It seems that you need a long bull-nosed plane, but the ones I've seen/used are short and hard to work with.

By Dennis Dunn on   10/20/2011 6:33 PM

Re: A little smoother, a little closer to decking

The bullnose plane is useful, but to be honest, accurate layout, sawing close to your line, and a good, sharp, long chisel will get you what you want. For joints like this, I prefer to scribe my layout with a marking knife to get right on. You can also use blue chalk if you like to discover and remove any subtle high spots.

By Tom Daniels on   10/20/2011 6:32 PM

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